{"id":359,"date":"2025-05-16T10:04:00","date_gmt":"2025-05-16T14:04:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.northhatley.info\/2025\/05\/16\/le-droit-dacces-a-linformation-un-processus-tres-long\/"},"modified":"2025-05-16T16:22:34","modified_gmt":"2025-05-16T20:22:34","slug":"le-droit-dacces-a-linformation-un-processus-tres-long","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/northhatley.info\/en\/2025\/05\/16\/le-droit-dacces-a-linformation-un-processus-tres-long\/","title":{"rendered":"Grandfathering claimed in North Hatley, but hard to prove!"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Following conversations about the infamous zoning bylaw called \u201cextensive water-related activities\u201d that forced the \u2018Navigo\u2019 shared boat project to vacate the premises following an \u201cin-house\u201d formal notice from the municipality of North Hatley.<\/p>\n\n<p>Interestingly, during a meeting with North Hatley municipal management, Navigo representatives questioned the fact that the current zoning does not allow any extensive water-related activities for all these businesses: <\/p>\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Pilsen: Boats parked for restaurant meals.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Florent H\u00e9bert, fishing guide: B&amp;B customers who bring their boats to the dock.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Manoir Hovey: 4 lakes pontoon rental.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Solstice Sauna: cold-water bathing.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Club North Hatley: membership and boat marina or multi-slip dock.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>North Hatley Marina: dock rental (yes, zoning doesn&#8217;t allow it)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n<p>During the meeting with two Navigo representatives, the municipality&#8217;s management clarified that all these businesses were \u201cgrandfathered\u201d to carry out extensive water-related activities. In fact, the only permitted area other than the public beach and the federal wharf is located in a non-waterfront zone of the municipality. It&#8217;s hard to do extensive water-related activities if you&#8217;re not on the water.  <\/p>\n\n<p>It&#8217;s important to know that you can&#8217;t just claim an acquired right &#8211; you have to prove it!<\/p>\n\n<p>Here&#8217;s an example of an access to information request made in the Township of Stanstead concerning proof of an acquired right. The municipality was able to provide the document very quickly.  <\/p>\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"547\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/northhatley.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/exemple-droit-acquis-municipalite-547x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-324\" style=\"width:481px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/northhatley.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/exemple-droit-acquis-municipalite-547x1024.jpg 547w, https:\/\/northhatley.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/exemple-droit-acquis-municipalite-160x300.jpg 160w, https:\/\/northhatley.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/exemple-droit-acquis-municipalite-768x1436.jpg 768w, https:\/\/northhatley.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/exemple-droit-acquis-municipalite-821x1536.jpg 821w, https:\/\/northhatley.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/exemple-droit-acquis-municipalite-600x1122.jpg 600w, https:\/\/northhatley.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/exemple-droit-acquis-municipalite.jpg 1057w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 547px) 100vw, 547px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n<p>In North Hatley, it&#8217;s much more complicated to obtain such a document certifying the acquired rights of businesses specified by the municipality&#8217;s own management.<\/p>\n\n<p>On July 15, 2024, I made my first request for access to information in due form: <\/p>\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"454\" src=\"https:\/\/northhatley.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/demande-acces-information-bon-et-due-forme-north-hatley-1024x454.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-328\" srcset=\"https:\/\/northhatley.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/demande-acces-information-bon-et-due-forme-north-hatley-1024x454.png 1024w, https:\/\/northhatley.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/demande-acces-information-bon-et-due-forme-north-hatley-300x133.png 300w, https:\/\/northhatley.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/demande-acces-information-bon-et-due-forme-north-hatley-768x341.png 768w, https:\/\/northhatley.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/demande-acces-information-bon-et-due-forme-north-hatley-1536x681.png 1536w, https:\/\/northhatley.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/demande-acces-information-bon-et-due-forme-north-hatley-2048x909.png 2048w, https:\/\/northhatley.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/demande-acces-information-bon-et-due-forme-north-hatley-600x266.png 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n<p>As of May 16, 2025, the Municipality of North Hatley has never provided proof of vested rights for any North Hatley merchant. In fact, I had to file a request with the Commission d&#8217;acc\u00e8s \u00e0 l&#8217;information du Qu\u00e9bec.  <\/p>\n\n<p>The most impressive part of the story is that the mayor herself, when questioned by the commission, never responded to the e-mails from the president&#8217;s office. The Chair&#8217;s office has contacted the mayor three times without response. Yet this is a simple access-to-information request that can be answered quickly.  <\/p>\n\n<p>Now I have to go to a mediator with the mayor to obtain a simple document demonstrating the right claimed by the management of the municipality itself! Nearly a year later, I still haven&#8217;t had an answer to my request. Am I the only one not to get an answer from the Municipality of North Hatley regarding my right to access information?  <\/p>\n\n<p>On that note, you can expect to wait almost a year for information from the Municipality of North Hatley, and hours of paperwork to assert your simple right!<\/p>\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"768\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/northhatley.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/demande-mairie-north-hatley-commission-acces-information-sans-reponse-1-768x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-336\" srcset=\"https:\/\/northhatley.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/demande-mairie-north-hatley-commission-acces-information-sans-reponse-1-768x1024.jpg 768w, https:\/\/northhatley.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/demande-mairie-north-hatley-commission-acces-information-sans-reponse-1-225x300.jpg 225w, https:\/\/northhatley.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/demande-mairie-north-hatley-commission-acces-information-sans-reponse-1-1152x1536.jpg 1152w, https:\/\/northhatley.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/demande-mairie-north-hatley-commission-acces-information-sans-reponse-1-1536x2048.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/northhatley.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/demande-mairie-north-hatley-commission-acces-information-sans-reponse-1-600x800.jpg 600w, https:\/\/northhatley.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/demande-mairie-north-hatley-commission-acces-information-sans-reponse-1-scaled.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 768px) 100vw, 768px\" \/><\/figure>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Following conversations about the infamous zoning bylaw called \u201cextensive water-related activities\u201d that forced the \u2018Navigo\u2019 shared boat project to vacate the premises following an \u201cin-house\u201d formal notice from the municipality of North Hatley. 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